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Solar payback is 8+ years; would you still do it? 
mjcameron
posted Nov 7, 2006 11:59:11 AMTo All
My husband and I are planning to install a solar electric system at our house next year. It will take a long time to make up the up-front cost through our utility bill savings. But from what we're reading, the value of our home will go up. Plus, we know the cost of energy will just keep going up, so our payback may well be shorter than what we're estimating (at today's energy prices).

We and millions of people like us will plunk down 30 or 40 grand on a new car without a second thought, and that's a losing investment! It depreciates the second you drive it of the lot and keeps on depreciating, fast. Spending a quarter to a third of that on solar is something we feel like we can realistically do, with a far better payoff than a new car will give us.

We would love to be able to do this for purely altruistic reasons, but the reality is that we are not selfless enough for that. We realize of course that saving the planet amounts to saving OURSELVES and our kids and grandkids. If there are no resources left for them or we can't implement solutions to global warming on a massive scale, it will be our fault. Installing solar on our house is something we feel makes a significant difference yet (thanks to our state incentives) isn't a drastic lifestyle sacrifice.

I just wanted to share my thoughts because I know many people must be saying, "I would go solar, but it's so expensive."

Edited by: mjcameron on Feb 21, 2007 3:35:57 PM

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Solar payback is 8+ years; would you still do it? 
Muted Liberal
posted Nov 10, 2006 3:02:45 PMTo All
I heard Colorado is about to expand their rebate program to include wind power. Do you know anything about that?
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Solar payback is 8+ years; would you still do it? 
mjcameron
posted Nov 16, 2006 3:54:28 PMTo All
Thank you for your post ... Our Gaiam Real Goods renewable energy experts recommend you visit http://www.dsireusa.org/ for the latest on rebates available by state.

Edited by: mjcameron on Feb 21, 2007 3:36:30 PM

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Solar payback is 8+ years; would you still do it? 
jhaydeng
posted Jan 9, 2007 5:56:39 PMTo All
Who is the manufacturer of solar equipment and what type of heating do you use? I live in New York and am trying to come up with an eco friendly plan in my home i.e., heat and electrical. Many New Yorkers are naive to any other technology than the norm, so it is very hard to acquire info. Thanks!
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Solar payback is 8+ years; would you still do it? 
Paul
posted Jan 10, 2007 4:58:57 PMTo All
Can anyone point me to a source that breaks down payback on a regional basis ?

Edited by: Paul on Jan 10, 2007 5:01:22 PM

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Solar payback is 8+ years; would you still do it? 
mjcameron
posted Jan 11, 2007 11:26:45 AMTo All
Hi Jhaydeng,

Our Gaiam Real Goods solar electric system solar electric system equipment suppliers include Sharp, Kyocera and others for PV panels; other system components are sourced from a variety of suppliers.

Gaiam Real Goods provides solar electric system design, consulting and installation in your area through Rob Ashmore at ABC Real Goods Solar in New York.

You can also call the Gaiam Real Goods technical consulting team at 800.919.2400 and purchase a system directly; installation would be handled by ABC Real Goods Solar in New York.

Did you see our interview with Bart Slawson in Alabama? He went solar despite an almost complete lack of awareness in his area about solar technology; his was the first intertie system his utility company had ever dealt with.

Edited by: mjcameron on Feb 21, 2007 3:37:18 PM

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Solar payback is 8+ years; would you still do it? 
mjcameron
posted Jan 11, 2007 2:31:48 PMTo All
Dear Paul,

Our Gaiam Real Goods technical consultants recommend visiting findsolar.com or the EERE site, for some information on regional incentives.

Edited by: mjcameron on Feb 21, 2007 3:37:33 PM

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Solar payback is 8+ years; would you still do it? 
Jenerator
posted Mar 28, 2007 2:43:08 PMTo All

Hi everyone,  It's nice to see so many interested in solar power!  As one of the technical consultants on the Real Goods team, the question of solar payback arises daily. 

Solar payback varies widely state-by-state.   Many factors go into determining the payback period including electricity rates, rebates, incentives, tax credits and whether or not your local utility uses time-of-use metering or a tiered rate system. 

States like California, Colorado, New Jersey and New York can expect shorter (8 to 10 year) payback periods for solar.  This is due to Renewable Portfolio Standards passed by each state mandating a certain percentage of renewable power by a certain date, high electricity rates and substantial rebates for system costs.

To learn more about solar, wind and hydro power, check out the below sites:

www.homepower.com  Great articles and info on everything solar, wind and hydro

Solar: 

www.dsireusa.org Federal, state and local rebates and tax credits

www.findsolar.com Local installer search engine

www.pvwatts.org/ Solar potential in your area

Wind:

www.windenergy.com Southwest Windpower turbine information 

www.awea.org National wind association

http://www.eere.energy.gov/windandhydro/windpoweringamerica/wind_maps.asp Wind potential in your area

Our website illustrates California's and Colorado's average electricity rates and the expected average payback.

http://www.realgoodssolar.com/


Edited by: Jenerator on Mar 28, 2007 2:44:26 PM

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Solar payback is 8+ years; would you still do it? 
Ann
posted Jun 11, 2007 10:58:53 AMTo All

What about NanoSolar? Are they going to be a viable option in the near future for homeowners? From what I've read it has the potential to bring the cost of solar power down to a competitive level with grid power.

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